01gt4.6

What emails are you referring to and how often do you get them? I don't know if I've ever received an email from FitDay.


I'm sorry that you feel that FitDay is holding your information "hostage". Any information that FitDay gets on a user was freely given by that user, FitDay doesn't go out and "take" information.

Did you try contacting FitDay directly, via the link provided below about your concerns?

VitoVino

Also, being a software developer, you are familiar with Terms of Service. Here is FitDay's regarding your "hostage data"

Intellectual Property

You represent and warrant that: (i) you own the content posted by you on or through the Site or otherwise have the right to grant the license set forth below, and (ii) the Posting of your content does not violate the privacy rights, publicity rights, copyrights, contract rights or any other rights of any person.

By displaying or posting content on the Site, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive global license to publish the content submitted by you to the Site. You also grant us global nonexclusive adaptation and resale rights over any content and material submitted to the Site. These nonexclusive publishing license and resale/adaptation rights extend to any materials submitted "for publication" within the Site, including both message board postings and content submitted for uploading and subsequent publishing within non-message board portions of the Site. Neither we nor our staff will be responsible for any misleading, false or otherwise injurious information and advice communicated on the Site or for any results obtained from the use of such information or advice. We will not be liable for any loss or damage suffered by a user through the user's reliance on information and advice gained on the Site.


Did you read the TOS when you signed up? Your data is located on the "non-message board portion of the site", so you are out of luck.

Kohsamui

Now, that's what I would call a "spirited" response!... At this point, I'd say there should be no further need to get all roused up about this topic...

VitoVino

I'm probably just talking to a one post wonder anyway. OPW's abound on FD.

danelledawnc

Wow! The way you talk to people VitoVino... Rude. Think I will go use another site - Thanks for the inspiration. No need to be part of a community with people like you who are so very condescending. A little smiley face at the end of your very rude sentences is like spit in the face. Try reading "Emotional Intelligence: Why It Can Matter More Than IQ" by Daniel Goleman and maybe you can learn how you can use psychology to help relieve people's aggravations rather than making it worse.

danielcarter

My information may be wrong, but I got that information directly from this very thread.



Also, by the way, you were getting snide. You still are. This next statement is snide.

Your statement actually confirmed exactly what I said before. You said, in that very statement, that you won't remove my health information until I pay for an account. I consider that a problem.


My choice of wording in relation to "giving permissions" was a more general way to reference functions that are available to end users. Whether it involves "giving permission", exposing another final endpoint to a service, or WHATEVER the idea is the same. And irrelevant to the argument. Not all developers walk and talk the same, develop in the same languages, or use the same technologies.

If the capability wasn't built in, that isn't an argument for why you're right. It's actually shows that this is either poorly designed system, was built specifically to retain info even after users leave, or they simply missed something that we (as users) feel was necessary.

Does this give you some sort of psycological upper-hand? Make you feel better about ripping someone open for asking such a simple request?

I have no desire to hear from you again, although I'm sure I will. I will be ignoring any further "advice" or "help" that you provide.

Now, to acknowledge a more reasonable post:

I don't get them terribly often, but once in a while I get a "Sign up for FitDay Premium!" solicitation. I could deal with the emails (just delete them when I get them), but I literally do not use the service at all, so I have to wonder if the emails will ever end.

And for me, the concern over my personal health data is of more important. People's fitness is a very personal matter.

01gt4.6

danielcarter, as far as emails I must not get them because I'm already a premium member. Does your email service let you block an email address or report at spam? Have you tried to change your email address under the profile tab?

VitoVino

Yes, this is very rude of me to state the Terms of Service, PROVING that you don't have a leg to stand on regarding "hostage" data:



Intellectual Property

You represent and warrant that: (i) you own the content posted by you on or through the Site or otherwise have the right to grant the license set forth below, and (ii) the Posting of your content does not violate the privacy rights, publicity rights, copyrights, contract rights or any other rights of any person.

By displaying or posting content on the Site, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive global license to publish the content submitted by you to the Site. You also grant us global nonexclusive adaptation and resale rights over any content and material submitted to the Site. These nonexclusive publishing license and resale/adaptation rights extend to any materials submitted "for publication" within the Site, including both message board postings and content submitted for uploading and subsequent publishing within non-message board portions of the Site. Neither we nor our staff will be responsible for any misleading, false or otherwise injurious information and advice communicated on the Site or for any results obtained from the use of such information or advice. We will not be liable for any loss or damage suffered by a user through the user's reliance on information and advice gained on the Site.


Did you read the TOS when you signed up? Your data is located on the "non-message board portion of the site", so you are out of luck.


By the way, this makes no sense. So you want your data deleted because you are leaving the site, but because someone points out to you that it's not going to happen you are threatening to leave... twice?

VitoVino

@ danelledawnc

AND

@ danielcarter


Complain all you want about your data not getting deleted, and how it's being held "hostage". And since you demand a shoulder to cry on, and tell me I'm "rude" for stating the cold hard facts, I offer you this:

danielcarter

Ha, nice, you found an image of a tissue box, you're so clever VitoVino. Pretty funny too. And much smarter than me, wow.

01gt4.6
I just received another email (Subject "The Guide to Skinny Summer Drinks – June 2012"), so I would say that marks an increase in email activity from the system. I could just mark these emails as spam, and will do so if I must, but the emails are a reminder that I have personal health data sitting in some service that I can't redact or remove.

Marking these as spam would kinda be like taking Advil for a severed limb. It would abate my immediate symptoms, but there's still the underlying problem (that being my perpetual membership on some site I don't use.)