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jen39376 09-27-2011 03:40 AM

Carbs or fat?
Hello…I recently put myself back on a strict diet to lose the 75 lbs I have gained over the past 4 years. I am determined to lose at least 60 lbs before Christmas. I have been doing great so far averaging about a pound per day, it’s only been 7 days but we all start somewhere, right? I know most of it is water weight and the next week or so will be the real weight loss. I have started exercising daily by walking (only at one mile in 20 min, need to work my way up), rowing machine and trying to figure out how to use that dame ball without falling off, I have no time for the gym so I have to make due while I am at home. But I am really confused which better to take in more of carbs or fat? Which burns faster? Right now I average an intake of roughly 800 calories depending on the day sometimes more sometimes less, around 70 – 75 grams carbs (which is little compared to old behavior, but still too many) , and fat between 20 – 27 grams depending on the day. Should I be taking in more fat then carbs to burn off the weight? I am not looking for a slow process diet, I want it over!! I know it’s not the “healthy” way but I am not starving myself or fasting so how unhealthy can it be? So if anyone can help me out with the carb to fat ratio, I would be so grateful, I have gone on so many websites researching that I am more confused then ever.

AbideInHim 09-27-2011 04:37 AM

You seem to be doing well, so I think it's up to you on how to proceed. For me, I do best on a low carb diet. My appetite stays better satisfied with protein and fat, I feel better and have more energy. And with any diet, sticking to it is the most important thing for sucess.

If later on you decide to do the low carb way of eating, I suggest that you do a bit of reading up on it, either over at or the Low Carb Friends forum. Both of those sites will help you get on the right track with a low carb way of eating. There's lots of misinformation about how those diets work, or how they affect you, and the right or wrong way of doing them. Even from well meaning folks.

Good luck with your chosen way of eating.

Best regards,

Right now, I'm on the induction phase of Atkins, and my ratio's are around:

Fat: 51%

Carbs: 4%

Protein: 37%

On Atkins, you slowly up your carb intake until you find that you are no longer loosing. Then, if you still need to loose a bit more weight, you back off a bit on carbs until you start loosing again. Or if you are in the maitenence phase of the diet you try to keep your carb intake at that point.

I've lost about 25 lbs in a little over 2 months.

jen39376 09-27-2011 04:41 AM

thank you...I am going to figure out how to lower the carbs and bring up the fat and protien some, without adding more caloires...I will go on the sites you mentioned for help...your reply was helpful, thank you very much

sjd01 09-29-2011 03:24 PM

Response to carbs or fat
Hello. My husband and I just started a diet that is supervised by a doctor (endocrinologist) at the Barnes/Center for Advanced Medicine in St. louis. (I lost 11.6 pounds in the first week.) The average weight loss of this medically supervised diet is suppose to be 4 to 6 pounds.

Our diet consists of

80 g of protein a day (you should have .8 - 1 gram per kg of your ideal body weight per day.) The protein is important so that you do not lose muscle!

35 g of carbs

0 g of fat

Extra vitamins and a prescription for potassium. Don't forget the potassium! Your muscles will waste if you don't get enough potassium. You need like 4000 units of potassium per day and you cannot get it all with a one a day vitamin. If you are going to cut your calories low go to your doctor and ask for a script

timshel01 09-29-2011 04:45 PM

Jen, personally I would ditch the calorie counting method. I follow Dr. Richard K Bernstein's WOE AKA low carb similar to Atkins. You limit your carbs to no more than 30 per day. By limiting your carbs you limit your glucose and prevent insulin spike responses. Insulin is a fat building hormone. Fat is your friend (not the hydrogenated kind) . I find an almost sure method that works for me is to log the foods I eat in a little spiral note book. Carbs for the morning should be 6, lunch 12, dinner 12.
That's it a nutshell.
Not sure if your goal is a little to lofty ; 60 lbs by Christmas?
Specific , you got that.
Method , you might need to work on that.
Action , ....
Realistic , ?
Time , You only have 2 months to lose 60 lbs.

briarbowl 09-29-2011 07:45 PM

@sjd01: ZERO grams of fat? Really? None at all? That sounds horribly dangerous. You need fat in your diet, maybe not a lot, but something. As far as potassium goes, not enough terrible but too much can be just as bad.

You have to do what works for you and keeps you sane throughout. There's no point in being miserable while you lose weight because it won't last. For me, low carb works the best but "your mileage may vary."

briarbowl 09-29-2011 08:21 PM

SOME carbs are necessary. Unless they've changed it, the USRDA used to be 300g/day. That's crazy, IMO. If you have 50-70g/day, that should be enough to allow you large-ish amounts of veggies. LC diets have a tendency to restrict those too much, I think.

jackdup 09-30-2011 04:51 AM

I can see why you are confused!

First of all, how can someone say they took in zero fat, that is impossible, even tuna has fat in it.

Then, the person that said zero carbs, but eats fruit; fruit is ONLY carbs.

The truth be told you need both.

20 to 30 percent protein, 40 to 50 percent carbs, and 20 to 25 per cent fats.

Ever see a body builder?

Google body building cutting cycle.

jackdup 09-30-2011 05:01 AM

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I just re read your post.

If you lose weight too fast, it will probably just come back, anyway.

The experts reccomend a pound per week for long lasting results.

Also, I am willing to post my pics with my answer to your question with past and current pics of myself, anyone else?

sjd01 09-30-2011 03:16 PM

Yes -- zero grams of fat.

There are risks to be sure. The doctor talked about problems with gallbladder and pancreas and said that you can't cheat on this diet and that when you go back to real food that I will have to slowly phase it in. Luckily I don't have a gallbladder!.

The shakes we drink are from the doctor's office. Pretty nasty tasting. And we have to drink at least three quarts of water a day to help flush out all the wastes that are going through the kidneys.

I have tried so many diets over the years. With a bmi of 41.8 I was seriously considering weight loss surgery. I thought I would give this a shot. We are 8 days in and I have lost 12.2 pounds and my husband 14.

Pros: Losing weight. Not hungry

Cons: Low energy, insomnia, restless legs [doctor says body will get used to program 2 weeks in and fatigue will diminish]

We have a friend that went to this doctor. She has diabetes and had an insulin pump. After 4 weeks on the diet she was able to get rid of the pump. After 2 months on the diet she gave up the insulin.

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