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williamscouple 01-22-2011 04:56 AM

Night time munchies??
 
Hi all! I have a problem with getting late might munchies. I try to eat a dinner that will hold me over, while still keeping my calories in check, but it's not working. It seems every night about 9-10 o'clock I get an attack of the munchies. I've tried drinking water, but that doesn't seem to work. I have been keeping to healthy snacks though, and keeping the calories low, but I know it's hurting my efforts. Any advise?

rainbow24 01-22-2011 05:04 AM

One thing that worked for me in the past was to eat all snacks with celery. So, in order to have one small acceptable snack, I had to eat six stalks of celery. At first I went through a lot of celery, but eventually it got easier to go without the snack.

I prepared for that this time by purchasing lots of celery, but ended up usig it in soups instead.

DetroitBreakdown 01-22-2011 05:07 AM

As you're keeping it within your calorie total for the day i sincerely doubt you're hurting your progress in any way. I'm quite sure the whole thing about not eating late is a complete myth.

I'm sure someone who knows more than me will give a better medical explanation. But as long as it's not late-night binging, or eating when you're half or all the way asleep and you are unable to really know what you're consuming, I think you're fine.

Good luck!

vabeachgirlNYC 01-22-2011 05:15 AM

When you eat doesn't matter as long as you are not overeating.

I always eat late at night. I am eating a tofurky sandwich right now!:p

williamscouple 01-22-2011 05:18 AM

The celery thing may work, since I am not a huge fan of plain celery, if I know I have to eat it, I may just skip the snack all together lol

I'd love if it was a myth, I've just heard it so many times, not sure what to believe.

I'm just stuck, and the scale isn't moving, so I'm trying to figure out what I can do better. Thanks you guys.

vabeachgirlNYC 01-22-2011 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by williamscouple (Post 33007)
I'd love if it was a myth, I've just heard it so many times, not sure what to believe.

I'm just stuck, and the scale isn't moving, so I'm trying to figure out what I can do better. Thanks you guys.

It's a myth! Now I'm eating a veggie corn dog!:p

MunaAmin 01-22-2011 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by vabeachgirlNYC (Post 33011)
It's a myth! Now I'm eating a veggie corn dog!:p

i wish more people were vegetarian, it's so good for body and for the world

mecompco 01-22-2011 09:48 AM

The studies I've read recently say that the time of day has no bearing on how the body burns calories.

If you figure the snacks into your calorie plan, I don't see a problem with them. I generally finish my relatively large supper (7-800 cals) within 2-3 hours of bedtime. So, I don't get a chance to get hungry again.

You could also go to bed earlier, if that is a "danger time" for you (as it is for me). Other studies have show that those who get more sleep tend to lose weight faster (somewhat counterintuitive, I know).

If you're not losing, you may need to rethink your calorie intake level, perhaps weigh/measure your portions for a while and/or bump up your activity level.

Let us know how things go.

Regards,
Michael

rainbow24 01-22-2011 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by MunaAmin (Post 33016)
i wish more people were vegetarian, it's so good for body and for the world

Some people just can't be vegetarian.
I am allergic to nuts and by cross contamination, seeds and dried fruits. I also have a sensitivity to some legumes and am supposed to limit them.
My granddaughter is allergic to soybeans and sensitive to peanuts. She is also allergic to a couple of vegetables and several fruits, and then sensitive to several more by family.

For both of us, it would be nearly impossible to take in sufficient protein to remain healthy. Especially if we are together because we are unable to even be in the same environment as our allergy foods.

vabeachgirlNYC 01-22-2011 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by rainbow24 (Post 33066)
Some people just can't be vegetarian. I am allergic to nuts...

For both of us, it would be nearly impossible to take in sufficient protein to remain healthy.

I'm allergic to nuts too. And to Iodine. I get plenty of protein as a vegetarian. :D

rainbow24 01-22-2011 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by vabeachgirlNYC (Post 33072)
I'm allergic to nuts too. And to Iodine. I get plenty of protein as a vegetarian. :D

Where do you get your protein from?
I found a list after I posted this question. I do have to limit my legumes as well. I have some favorite legume recipes, but my doctor said no more than a small serving once a week or so.

I know there are some great gluten free grains and flours, but most, if not all available to me, may contain traces of nuts.

cjohnson728 01-22-2011 07:30 PM

My personal opinion is that there is only so much you can "fight" your body on. This is one thing that my body and I had to compromise on.

If you're having a healthy snack and the calories are low, it shouldn't be hurting your efforts.

I'm a night owl and if I couldn't eat after dinner, that would leave me 5-6 hours to fill. I also usually work out at night.

I just try to plan ahead. As I get into the afternoon/evening, I make sure everything for dinner is loaded into the food log, then I know how much "room" I have for snacks.

Usually, I try to eat one "non-impact" snack, such as celery sticks, carrot sticks, cuke slices, etc., one snack to beef up the part(s) of my pie chart that are lacking (generally protein and/or fat, so I'll have some almonds, pistachios, walnuts, peanut butter on the celery, or even sliced turkey) and one snack that I really enjoy, like some fruit, popcorn, pretzels, frozen yogurt, cheese & crackers. If I get all my food logged in ahead of time, I can make sure that everything is balanced enough with respect to the calories, pie chart, fiber, etc. Especially if I've worked out, I have a protein-y snack after that.

almeeker 01-22-2011 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by MunaAmin (Post 33016)
i wish more people were vegetarian, it's so good for body and for the world

I was a vegetarian through most of undergrad school, then I got sick, really sick and ended up in the hospital. One of the tests indicated that I was anemic, which was very surprising as I've taken a multi-vitamin with iron since I turned 16. Any how to make a long story short, I found out that I don't metabolize vegetable forms of iron, so in order to be healthy I cannot be a practicing vegetarian every day. Red meat 2-3 times/week, doctor's orders.

01gt4.6 01-22-2011 11:59 PM

I use to always get up around 3am and make some cereal. After hearing a ghost in the house on my late night feast, I no longer venture to the kitchen during the night. :eek: Besides that I found that if I drink a casein protein shake before bed it'll hole me over.

lastri 01-23-2011 12:35 AM

I used to eat a big bowl of soup like Pho (Vietnamese beef noodle soup) at 11 pm. When I realize how much weight I put on over time. I try to eliminate it.
1. I try to go to bed early
2. I was starved at night for 1 week
Then I get used to it. Now I try not to eat after 7pm as much as I can. Of course, some time I have to break that rule and I end up over eating (I have 2 dinners), my regular dinner around 6pm, then social dinner like at my family in law, or friends.

vabeachgirlNYC 01-23-2011 03:14 AM


Originally Posted by rainbow24 (Post 33076)
Where do you get your protein from?
I found a list after I posted this question. I do have to limit my legumes as well. I have some favorite legume recipes, but my doctor said no more than a small serving once a week or so.

I know there are some great gluten free grains and flours, but most, if not all available to me, may contain traces of nuts.

I try to buy whole organic unprocessed foods so I don't have to worry about having a reaction iodine or to possible "traces" of nuts, plus it taste better and is healthier. I also look for the label "does not process nuts or use shared equipment/facilities". If I don't know what is in something I won't eat it.

I eat some dairy for fat and protein, but not from farms that feed iodine fortified soil, feed to their animals. I get other protein from fruit, veggies, grains, soy and plants. I do not take any supplements or protein powders.

According to the ADA and RDA I get more then my minimum requirement. :) I also lift pretty heavy and according to my muscles I get plenty! :D

ETA: I carry my allergy meds with me 24/7 just in case. It's hard to avoid accidental reactions no matter how careful you are. Plus as much as I hate to say it and as much as it pisses me off, people lie or think you are just being picky so I have had reactions in restaurants, etc.

cjohnson728 01-23-2011 04:28 AM

Mai, is there an easy way to make pho at home? I love it and I'd like to be able to make it and know exactly what's in it so I can work it into my food plan. Right now when I go out for it, it's just a guess!

rainbow24 01-23-2011 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by vabeachgirlNYC (Post 33154)
I try to buy whole organic unprocessed foods so I don't have to worry about having a reaction iodine or to possible "traces" of nuts, plus it taste better and is healthier. I also look for the label "does not process nuts or use shared equipment/facilities". If I don't know what is in something I won't eat it.
I eat some dairy for fat and protein, but not from farms that feed iodine fortified soil, feed to their animals. I get other protein from fruit, veggies, grains, soy and plants. I do not take any supplements or protein powders.

According to the ADA and RDA I get more then my minimum requirement. :) I also lift pretty heavy and according to my muscles I get plenty! :D

ETA: I carry my allergy meds with me 24/7 just in case. It's hard to avoid accidental reactions no matter how careful you are. Plus as much as I hate to say it and as much as it pisses me off, people lie or think you are just being picky so I have had reactions in restaurants, etc.

We had our own laying hens for a while, but I kept having reactions. I found out that the landlord at our farm was feeding scraps to the chickens and wonder whether there were some nuts involved. Now I buy eggs from the store.

I looked at your food intake on another thread and see that you do get more than your daily requirements. Soy is an ingredient that I avoid as much as possible in our house, just in case my granddaughter ends up visiting. It is much easier to just keep it out of the house than to clean up every time she comes over.

I avoid restaurants, to the point that I carry a car oven in the van so I can cook while driving long distance. But if I have to, the epi-pen comes right out on the table so the server gets an eyeful of what could happen.

I used to work out at a public gym but kept breakig out in hives on my hands. I had to wear gloves because other patrons, and trainers, would snack on nuts and not wash their hands.

My granddaughter is also gluten free and I actually like her food, but there are very few flours that don't have possible traces. There is a grinding company near here where you can place special orders, I have been meaning to go in and talk to them personally.

You start getting the hang of when people are lying.

Oh, I have a young friend who is going into baking classes in college. She was thoughtful enough to bake me some nut-free muffins. I didn't have the heart to explain cross contamination to her, besides the fact that she used dried apricots and most packages say "may contain" on them. My husband ate them. We haven't kissed in years, so its ok. :D

Nekokitty 01-23-2011 10:41 PM

I try to save some snacks for bedtime. If I am hungry, I cannot sleep! I have a dear friend who eats peanut butter as a snack, to ward off cravings, and I like fiber bars because fiber makes you feel fuller longer. As long as you plan for a snack, you can make a healthy choice, and also not feel guilty about eating at night since it wouldn't be a matter of willpower :)

saigler 01-23-2011 10:59 PM

If you're not too hungry and just have the munchies, try brushing your teeth early. You know how everything tastes funny after you brush your teeth? I try to brush mine right after dinner, then don't much care for food after that.

vabeachgirlNYC 01-24-2011 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by rainbow24 (Post 33164)
My husband ate them. We haven't kissed in years, so its ok. :D

:eek: HAHA, ROFLMAO!!!

williamscouple 01-24-2011 04:53 AM


Originally Posted by mecompco (Post 33020)
The studies I've read recently say that the time of day has no bearing on how the body burns calories.

If you figure the snacks into your calorie plan, I don't see a problem with them. I generally finish my relatively large supper (7-800 cals) within 2-3 hours of bedtime. So, I don't get a chance to get hungry again.

You could also go to bed earlier, if that is a "danger time" for you (as it is for me). Other studies have show that those who get more sleep tend to lose weight faster (somewhat counterintuitive, I know).

If you're not losing, you may need to rethink your calorie intake level, perhaps weigh/measure your portions for a while and/or bump up your activity level.

Let us know how things go.

Regards,
Michael

Well, My calories are already low (1000-1200) with the snacks, so going lower not an option. I could increase the exercise though.

williamscouple 01-24-2011 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by cjohnson728 (Post 33083)
My personal opinion is that there is only so much you can "fight" your body on. This is one thing that my body and I had to compromise on.

If you're having a healthy snack and the calories are low, it shouldn't be hurting your efforts.

I'm a night owl and if I couldn't eat after dinner, that would leave me 5-6 hours to fill. I also usually work out at night.

I just try to plan ahead. As I get into the afternoon/evening, I make sure everything for dinner is loaded into the food log, then I know how much "room" I have for snacks.

Usually, I try to eat one "non-impact" snack, such as celery sticks, carrot sticks, cuke slices, etc., one snack to beef up the part(s) of my pie chart that are lacking (generally protein and/or fat, so I'll have some almonds, pistachios, walnuts, peanut butter on the celery, or even sliced turkey) and one snack that I really enjoy, like some fruit, popcorn, pretzels, frozen yogurt, cheese & crackers. If I get all my food logged in ahead of time, I can make sure that everything is balanced enough with respect to the calories, pie chart, fiber, etc. Especially if I've worked out, I have a protein-y snack after that.

That is exactly what I am trying to do. Healthy snacks. And I am allowing for, since I realized I am going to "need" it. I'm still getting into my new routine, so I guess I'll figure out what works eventually. Thanks

kcolville 01-24-2011 12:15 PM

After dinner while unwidning around 7-8pm i am allowed a "snack" which is usually a treat food like a skinny cow ice cream, or fruit smoothie... around 100-200 cals.

After i eat that- i GO TO BED...what better way to be healthy and avoid the cupboard!?!!

Get your booty in that bed and fall asleep!

[email protected] 01-24-2011 04:24 PM

Mmmm...Jalapeno Life Boats!
 

Originally Posted by kcolville (Post 33300)
After dinner while unwidning around 7-8pm i am allowed a "snack" which is usually a treat food like a skinny cow ice cream, or fruit smoothie... around 100-200 cals.

After i eat that- i GO TO BED...what better way to be healthy and avoid the cupboard!?!!

One of my favorite low cal/high satisfaction snacks is what I call .....
Jalapeno Life Boats...Total cal count is less than 100 calories.
These are great! Hot! Cheesy! and you can spice them as you like....

Take 4 fresh jalapenos (4-5 inches long)
Learn About Jalapeno Peppers - Chile peppers, hot peppers, jalapeno heat, scoville units
Wash them and cut off the stem end
Now split them lengthwise and scoop out the seeds (discard the seeds)
You now have 8 Jalapeno " life boats"

Unwrap 1 Frigo String cheese serving (4 inches long)
Frigo 100% Natural String Cheese, 100% Natural - Deli - reviews, ingredients and nutrition from Zeer.com
Cut the "string" into two 2 inch lengths
Now cut each of those pieces lengthwise in half,
and those halves lengthwise in half again
You now have 8 cheese "sailors" for each one of the Jalapeno boats
SET THE CHEESE ASIDE UNTIL LATER

Place the jalapeno boats on a microwaveable plate
Cover and microwave for 2-3 minutes depending on desired firmness

I sprinkle garlic salt into each of the boats (use any spice you like)
I then place each of the 8 pieces of cheese into each of the 8 boats

I then micro the cheese filled boats for a minute at a time,
rotating the dish and monitoring the status of the cheese melt.

Mmmmmmmm delicious!---Less than 100 calories- :)
7 g of protein, 6 g of fat & 40% of RDA for vitamin C

Experiment and enjoy this delicious hot Titanic taste treat!

lastri 01-24-2011 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by cjohnson728 (Post 33159)
Mai, is there an easy way to make pho at home? I love it and I'd like to be able to make it and know exactly what's in it so I can work it into my food plan. Right now when I go out for it, it's just a guess!

Cassie,
Yes you can make it at home. If you love to cook, you can give it a try. But I don't have the exact recipe. I just know the method, the taste you have to adjust by yourself.
Here how I do it
1. Buy the meat that you want, I buy beef shank (it have a big tough meat around little bone). If you want to cook for a big crown, add some beef bone (more flavor and more fat). You also can buy some round eye or bottom round roast, or any kind of lean tender cut for rare. You thin slice it and put it 1 layer ontop of the noodle before pour hot soup over it.
2. Pho Spices (at your asian store). IF they don't have, you can use the combination of 1 cinamon stick, 1Tbsp of clove, 3 star anises, 1Tbsp pepper corn, 1 cadimom pod. Put them in a cheese cloths or a herb ball.
3. Rice noodle dry or fresh. Fresh is better, you just need to blanch them for 1/2 minute right before you serve. Dry, you need to soak them in cold water for 3 hours, then rinse and blanch for 1 minute right before you serve.
4. Bean sprout, basil, green onion and cilantro Chopped, hoisin sauce, sirrachia (chilli sauce).
5. Rock sugar (or just regular one), salt, MSG (optional)
6. 1 onion, and a 4oz fresh ginger slice or smash.
How to cook:
If you use bone, it more complicated. You need to boil the bone for 5 minutes, then wash them under cold running water, so all the scum to get all the scum out. Then add them to you soup pot.
If you just use beef shank, wash and put it in the soup pot and water and bring to a boil. Becareful, and get all the scum out the first 20 minutes so the stock be clear. After you take out all the scum about 30 minutes. Put in an onion and sliced ginger, a Tbsp salt. At this point you can cover the pot to prevent avaporate and keep the flavor in. Let it simmer for a couple hours. When you think the flavor in the bone came out of thebone.
You add 1 or 2 piece of rock sugar, MSG, and more salt to taste. Then You put the spice which already prepare in the herb ball. This step take about 20-30 minutes. Check after 20 minutes to see if you like it or not. If you let it boil too long it will be too strong.
There you have a Pho pot.
Put the blanched noodle on the bowl, add rare meat, chopped scalion, cilantro. Then pour hot soup in the bowl with the meat we have been cook in the pot. and serve.

Let me know if you have any questions. I am happy to help.
Mai

Cthebird 01-24-2011 09:26 PM

I wake up at 3am almost every morning and have to take my Synthroid (Levothyroxine) for my hypothyroidism. I'm always famished at that time but know I can't eat for an hour (its a requirement of this medicine). So I go to bed and wake up famished at 7am and start making breakfast.

I have a bad habit of eating more calories at breakfast and lunch than at dinner. I think that is why I'm so hungry. This is also bad because I take a medicine at dinner that must be taken with 500 calories or more. I never make it to 500 calories on my low carb diet. I guess my medicine is less effective. Note: I'd take it at breakfast or lunch, but it makes me tired, so dinner is the best choice. I go to bed by 9pm or 10pm at the latest and usually eat dinner at 7:30pm on the weekdays and 6:30pm on the weekends.

yakmatt 01-27-2011 07:06 PM

I had the same problem, loved a bowl of ice cream before bed. I had trouble sleeping on an empty stomach. I switched to 100 cal yogurt and a metamucil drink. The extra fiber really bloats you up and gives you a feeling of being full at only 20 cals.

williamscouple 01-27-2011 08:57 PM

Yep thats my problem, falling asleep while my tummy is growling. I also do the yogurt in the evening or fruit. Unfortunately, cant do the fiber drinks, because of IBS. Which by the way, has improved greatly since I have changed my diet.

rpmcduff 01-28-2011 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by Cthebird (Post 33375)
I wake up at 3am almost every morning and have to take my Synthroid (Levothyroxine) for my hypothyroidism. I'm always famished at that time but know I can't eat for an hour (its a requirement of this medicine). So I go to bed and wake up famished at 7am and start making breakfast.

I have a bad habit of eating more calories at breakfast and lunch than at dinner. I think that is why I'm so hungry. This is also bad because I take a medicine at dinner that must be taken with 500 calories or more. I never make it to 500 calories on my low carb diet. I guess my medicine is less effective. Note: I'd take it at breakfast or lunch, but it makes me tired, so dinner is the best choice. I go to bed by 9pm or 10pm at the latest and usually eat dinner at 7:30pm on the weekdays and 6:30pm on the weekends.

Have you tried a whey or casein protein shake before bed?

otai1day 01-31-2011 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by mecompco (Post 33020)
The studies I've read recently say that the time of day has no bearing on how the body burns calories.

...You could also go to bed earlier, if that is a "danger time" for you (as it is for me). Other studies have show that those who get more sleep tend to lose weight faster (somewhat counterintuitive, I know)...

Sleeping is the only time I don't think about food and end up eating something. I just might start going to bed earlier :-)

Tai
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mecompco 01-31-2011 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by otai1day (Post 34330)
Sleeping is the only time I don't think about food and end up eating something. I just might start going to bed earlier :-)

Tai
(new to FitDay Forums)

Welcome to the forums!

And yes, that's actually a pretty good idea. I'm usually in bed by 8 pm on weekdays, 9 at the absolute latests. That really doesn't give me time to get hungry after supper.

I did read where (up to a point, anyway) that those who get more sleep (at least 8 hours) tend to lose weight faster than those who sleep less.

Regards,
Michael

townieirish 02-05-2011 08:44 AM

All Mental
 
its about boredom,somethings on you mind,etc

Try suger free pudding with lite whipped cream and graham bits on top healthy choice ?? ;)

mecompco 02-05-2011 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by townieirish (Post 34890)
its about boredom,somethings on you mind,etc

Try suger free pudding with lite whipped cream and graham bits on top healthy choice ?? ;)

I agree about boredom--to paraphrase, "an idle mind is the diet devil's playground". Truly, about the only time I am hungry or tempted to eat over my calorie limit is when I'm doing nothing. Keep busy or go to bed--that's what I do.

Regards,
Michael

Tonjlet 02-05-2011 12:26 PM

Boredom
 
So glad to see that lots of other people have my problem. My work is often very busy but there are days when there is very little to do and these are the times that hunger seems to take up permanent residence in my tummy!! Sadly, there is a snack machine with potato crisps and chocolate. It's so hard to resist such temptation!

virge randall 02-05-2011 03:35 PM

I can't speak for anyone else, but if I eat after 9 p.m. (especially if I have anything salty), I"m up at least a pound on the scale the next day, regardless of exercise or whatever else I've done that day. The lesson is to eat the final meal no later than 8, cut down on the salt and make sure that whatever I eat has enough calories to make me feel satisfied. Now if I can remember to eat the first meal within an hour of awakening....

pinenutcasserole 02-09-2011 03:39 AM

Second the soup suggestion. I usually add a splash of lemon juice, for flavour more than anything, but I've read that it can reduce hunger.

Salt bloats, it's true, but it also cuts hunger... Parents in my grandfather's poor, 'old country' village gave their children salt, or salty broths, to stop them asking for food. Blew my mind.

ZoeDuc 09-15-2011 01:27 PM

This is exactly what I am going through right now. I've been losing weight since March, but the last couple of weeks I'm just so hungry at night! 2 nights ago I binged on anything and everything. :(
Lately I'm great all day and then go nuts about 6 or 7pm. arrghhh

VitoVino 09-15-2011 02:19 PM

An 8 ounce glass of vegetable juice (low sodium and 50 cals.) first, and then hot air popcorn (with sprayed 'butter') does the trick for me, every time. I plan on it in my food journal for days I've cut back on the calories. These are days I also plan to eat extra fiber and extra protein during the day.


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