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Jackeroo2 09-27-2010 05:12 PM

Hi - I've been reading Sisson's book and some other nutrition books recently (Paleo diet by Loren Cordain, Gut and Psychology syndrome, nutrition and physical degeneration by weston price to name a few) and am starting to move towards a more primal diet. I started by reducing bread this summer (and trying to eat only sourdough when I do) and am cutting out most grains but I still have the occasional piece of bread (just because I was brought up on it and really like it with butter). I have also been reading Stephan Guyenet's blog - whole health source - which is fascinating - he is not quite so extreme as Sisson and Cordain and based on his reading of the scientific literature on nutrition believes that grains (and legumes) are OK in moderation IF prepared properly - soaked, fermented or sprouted (like they are eaten traditionally) - though he does reject wheat because of the gluten. However, in the defence of grains in small quantities, my parents are remarkably healthy and in their 80's and have none of the typical western ailments (cancer, diabetes or CVD) and still eat some bread, cereal, cake and pies. However, most of what they eat otherwise is what they grow in their garden (except meat of course) and my Mom cooks most everything from scratch - they eat a lot of meat and veg meals and usually fruit and either cream or yogurt for dessert. They do not go light on the butter either. My dad still tries to walk around 4 miles a day, sometimes in the hills. So even though I think I might try the primal blueprint diet to lose some weight, I think that longterm one can be fairly healthy still including some grains and dairy in ones diet.

So far, what I have noticed is that I'm not sleeping as well. I don't feel so rested in the morning and sometimes wake up earlier than normal feeling wired! It is very weird. My energy level is great throughout the day with no highs and lows like when you eat lots of carbs and I often don't feel hungry. I'm trying to increase some low level exercise and some intense weight sessions. Not sure about the sprinting - I may try that later as I stubbed my toe recently and it still hurts a bit when I walk. I've not lost much weight yet.

Have you started the primal blueprint yet? If so, how is it going for you.

tbailey33 10-01-2010 01:11 AM

I started eating Paleo/Primal on September 1st. It has not been easy, but it has been "doable." The main problem I have found has been the convenience factor. This lifestyle requires "real" foods, i.e., not processed. But real foods are oftentimes a lot more work to prepare than prepackaged off the shelf type fare.

Having said all that, I've noticed great results. I'm 38 years old, 6'4" and currently weigh 206 pounds. In one month, I've lost 9 pounds and two inches from my waist. (I've also increased my exercise during this period, but I attribute most of the weight loss to diet change.) Also, before starting this way of eating, I had to take omeprazole daily to control my heartburn. After about a week, I stopped taking the omeprazol and I have not had a single instance of heartburn.

The scientific studies on this diet seem to support what I've discovered on this diet. I.e., you will lose weight, feel better and have overall improved health.

mev532 10-08-2010 11:50 PM

I am a big fan of Paleo style diets.

The couple of times I have done a strict paleo diet--where you just eat meat, nuts, seeds, fruits and vegetables--I had great energy and satiation level (hunger came on gradually and without big cravings, instead of suddenly) and in fact had a lot of trouble eating enough when I merely ate when I was hungry.

You end up eating a larger percentage of your calories from fat (it was about 50% for me, with about 25-30% carbs and 20-25% protein) but because it is pared with veggies and good protein sources--instead of refined carbohydrates--you don't end up over eating and you stay satiated for a long time. Naturally lower carbohydrate intake will also help more of the weight loss to come from fat instead of muscle.

It does take some planning, but not that much. Learning to cook for one's self instead of relying on crappy processed food and frozen dinners is an immensely important step for anyone trying to improve their body composition anyway, regardless of what kinds of foods they choose to eat. Crock pot recipes, big batches of stuff so you have left overs, and a lunch cooler to bring to work are the keys in my experience.

So, Primal/Paleo diets: highly recommended for people trying to lose fat.

Primal-Lioness 10-20-2010 12:41 AM

Hi, I have been doing low carb plans since 2003. I started out on Atkins and have progressed to a more Primal Plan - hence my screen name, LOL.....

My problem is I have problems sticking with any type of lower carb plan during the colder fall and winter months. Right now I am plugging away great, but starting to crave chicken and dumplings.

Maybe I need to find a low carb dumpling recipe that doens't contain white flour........or maybe substitute almond / coconut flour.

I love the way I feel and how defined my body looks by shedding fat instead of muscle.

I am currently taking classes at Institute of Integrative Nutrition and intend on becoming a Nutrition Coach focusing on those that are diabetic or have hormonal issues. Since that is where my own experience lies, I believe that I can help people out tremendously!!

I am hoping to open my own practice called Back to Your Roots focusing on Naturopathic Nutrition.

mev532 10-21-2010 12:58 PM

Nice, Primal-Lioness. You experience lines up with a number of studies I've seen showing low carb, higher protein diets, help a larger proportion of weight loss come from fat, instead of muscle, which is desirable for a number of reasons.

As for your cravings, you could still do the chicken soup, but the dumplings would be harder. Almond meal dumplings might work though . . . could be something worth playing with. I love using almond meal.

If you find a way to make a halfway decent dumpling, let us know!

Jackeroo2 10-22-2010 09:06 AM

Hi Primal folks

I've been on my low carb primalish diet for about 4 weeks now but my weightloss has stalled. It is weird but I'm eating about ~800-1000 calories below my daily requirement (so about 1500 calories or less a day) and eating about 100g or less carbs and I'm not losing any weight. Not sure what is going on but I lost about 2 lbs a week for the first few weeks until now - I didn't think I'd reach a setpoint already that my body wouldn't want to go below. I could definitely lose another 15-20 lbs - I'm towards the upper BMI range of healthy. Has anyone else had weightloss stalls?

I also don't feel hungry much on this diet and feel satisfied after eating less food. I haven't gone completely paleo but I've cut out most pasta/rice/corn starches - I still sometimes have a piece of sourdough bread or rye bread - so perhaps I need to cut that out completely to resume weightloss. It just doesn't make sense that I'm not losing weight given the calorie deficit that I've had the past 2 weeks.

tandoorichicken 10-22-2010 10:16 AM

Jackeroo,

How's your physical activity? If you're not already sprinting/lifting heavy, may want to consider starting. That will turn on the furnace again :)

Jackeroo2 10-28-2010 04:34 PM

Hi Nik

Thanks for the tips. I also read a great post on the WholeHealthSource blog recently on changing the fat set point - see here: Link Removed

I also realized that I had not been exercising so much the past couple of weeks - not cycling to work. But what is more interesting is that because I was a little stressed those two weeks (I had to find a new nanny for my toddler pronto) I was staying up late to surf and so not getting enough sleep, I was not taking a lunch break to sit outside or walk in the sun (more surfing) and was not taking any cod liver oil for vit A and D. However, when I started to go to bed earlier, go out more at lunch, and ride my bike to the office this week, my weight suddenly started to drop again. Hmmm - might be something to the body-mind connection and also getting enough sleep and Vit D.

zorba1331 11-07-2010 01:41 AM

The Primal Blueprint is a fantastic way to go. Also read Robb Wolf's Paleo Solution which is also a tremendous resource (go to Robbwolf.com).

It really depends on your level of metabolic derrangement whether or not you can have a bit of bread here and there. If you are overweight and got that way via eating a lot of grains/processed foods you ought to have NONE in the first 30 days at least. It only takes a small amount of grain/gluten every 2 weeks or so to maintain your level of inflammation so it should be avoided at all costs.

We as humans don't need grains and there is loads of science on sites like Marks Daily Apple, Robb Wolf's, Dr. Eades, The Heart Scan Blog, etc, etc to back it up. We like to think that we need them because we like them, they are tasty and convenient, and we are told that we need them by commercials, Dr's. and dieticians everywhere. Read Gary Taubes book "Good Calories, Bad Calories" to find out WHY we are told that we need them.

I have been Primal since May and have never felt and looked better. I never had a ton of weight to lose, but I never had defined abs before. You can see them now and I like what I see. My friend has lost 75 lbs since March, his blood pressure has gone down considerably and he has also had many benefits from going grain free.

The Primal lifestyle is very doable. It does require some thought, but isn't a person's health worth thinking about rather than mindlessly shoving more packaged food in?

tandoorichicken 11-15-2010 11:08 AM

Grains are a touchy issue. They aren't "needed" per se, but I like to do mine a la Stephan Guyenet and really eat the whole grain - not "whole grain" bread/pasta/products (what complete crap). Since I train heavy, they work great as glycogen replenishers and keep next day soreness to a minimum. So I would say they are useful for such purposes. I typically do either rice or quinoa.

Phocion_Timon 12-02-2010 04:20 AM

No grains, no processed foods, a piece of fruit now and then, the occasional vegetable. Lots of meat and fat: "breakfast" sausage links, eggs fried in real butter or bacon fat or beef tallow, marbled beef, bacon, high fat hamburger meat (70/30), heavy cream in my coffee sometimes, a glass of Half & Half cream every now and then. My generally accomplished goal is to keep my daily carb intake to less than 20 gm per day.

I have lost 30 pounds, my blood pressure dropped drastically, my blood glucose now stays in the 72 - 85 ml/dl range.

I still have almost 100 pounds to lose but I now have hope. In the past, getting rid of this frickin' fat was a lost cause.

My unconditional rule: Conventional wisdom, like the government, is always wrong.

ladyofthundera 12-07-2010 11:02 PM

I'm planning to do the 30 day paleo challenge. I do Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and there have been quite a few members of the forum I am on who do it. I want to use it as an opportunity to learn to cook better--right now I tend to be so basic with my foods and just have broccoli alone or zucchini alone and a meat alone, not so much "recipes" as heating up the individual ingredients.

I have a good base to start with: rarely drink anything but water, rarely eat bread or rice, occasionally have some black licorice.

Long term paleo is NOT for me. I have no desire to give up cappuccinos forever, nor do I want to quit yogurt, but I love the idea of a challenge, and it'll be interesting to eat clean for a month. Though, clean can't mean organic for me, as I'm in Korea and have NO CLUE about organic vs non-organic here. Meh.

Primal-Lioness 12-13-2010 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by ladyofthundera (Post 27781)
I'm planning to do the 30 day paleo challenge. I do Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and there have been quite a few members of the forum I am on who do it. I want to use it as an opportunity to learn to cook better--right now I tend to be so basic with my foods and just have broccoli alone or zucchini alone and a meat alone, not so much "recipes" as heating up the individual ingredients.

I have a good base to start with: rarely drink anything but water, rarely eat bread or rice, occasionally have some black licorice.

Long term paleo is NOT for me. I have no desire to give up cappuccinos forever, nor do I want to quit yogurt, but I love the idea of a challenge, and it'll be interesting to eat clean for a month. Though, clean can't mean organic for me, as I'm in Korea and have NO CLUE about organic vs non-organic here. Meh.

You can do Paleo and have an occasional cappuccino and yogurt.

If you adhere for 80% of the time to Paleo standards, there is always the other 20% of being able to have some treats.

ladyofthundera 12-13-2010 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by Primal-Lioness (Post 28356)
You can do Paleo and have an occasional cappuccino and yogurt.

If you adhere for 80% of the time to Paleo standards, there is always the other 20% of being able to have some treats.

This may be true, but I have no desire to stick to Paleo standards. I realize that for the most part I do unintentionally stick to Paleo, but the difference is mindset. Same as if I say "I'll be vegetarian for 80% of the time." For me it's following a diet or not following a diet. I would personally rather my good choices outweighed my bad ones, rather than stick to one diet 80% of the time and know that I was basically cheating the other 20%.

For me, it's more about calories in/out and exercise, as well as choosing overall healthy foods. And while paleo may be healthy, overall it's a bit too restrictive for me and doesn't fit well with my life's philosophy, but then neither did vegetarianism, and I was a veg for 10 years.

specialkayefl 12-19-2010 05:21 AM

I'm in on the Primal Blueprint. I haven't bought the book just yet but have devoured Mark's Daily Apple.

I never ate candy bars but did have occasional M&Ms, but not many. Never eat McD's. I never drink soda unless it's mixed with bourbon, yet, no matter what, I was packing on the pounds. It must have been the grains. I've pretty much knocked all grains off my plate and now I'm knocking off a pound every other day. For now at least. Can't say I won't EVER eat any grain again, but right now, I'm grain free and loving it. The last two days, I've worn two pairs of pants I haven't fit into in 6 months or more.

Yeah, I'm Primal.

gee1996 12-28-2010 09:24 PM

lacto-paleo
 
Hi, ladyofthundera,


Originally Posted by ladyofthundera (Post 27781)
I'm planning to do the 30 day paleo [snip]
Long term paleo is NOT for me. I have no desire to give up cappuccinos forever, nor do I want to quit yogurt.

yes, you can still have dairy (full fat) on a paleo diet (assuming you are not lactose intolerant or allergic).

I prefer the approach of Dr. Harris (you can search for his 12-step program on paleonu.com).
he makes much more sense than Dr. Cordain to me on dairy, sweetener & oils; the purpose of paleo diet is not re-enactment (in his words).
so for those who have no problem with dairy, why so dogmatic about it?

i also don't like 80/20 rule either. i prefer to set the goal to be 100%, (does not mean i can do it)

cheers,

Alexa_Rae 12-29-2010 05:53 PM

paleo
 
As for paleo I recomend listening to Robb Wolf's podcast and maybe looking up his websites, he also has a few books out but most of the info is availble on the web. I really like his info and his point of veiw on the the whole diet vs. lifestyle change. I've done paleo before but I always drop the ball a few weeks in with bullcrap excuses but Im back on the wagon as of now haha, and with my previous expirences with the paleo diet I was very happy with the quick results that it produced. :)

celladebella 01-02-2011 06:56 AM

New to Primal
 
Hello Everyone,
I'm new to primal blueprint. Just started yesterday actually. I have a good family friend who has done primal since august and has had great results.

I am a college student and am nervous about having the time and money to do primal correctly. Any advice?

tandoorichicken 01-02-2011 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by celladebella (Post 30098)
I am a college student and am nervous about having the time and money to do primal correctly. Any advice?

Hi there, I just finished school and I can tell you one thing: eggs will be your best friend! If you have a trader joe's nearby you can also get pretty inexpensive grilled chicken chunks.

4phoenix 01-07-2011 04:11 PM

You might want to check out Art DeVarny's website...Good luck to you. The list looks like you're off to a great new year!

gee1996 01-17-2011 05:26 PM

cut down fruits & soda
 
Hi, ShoshanaAviva,

may i suggest that:

. up your saturated fat (if you have problem with heavy cream, use coconut oil or ghee). you don't have enough.

. cut down fruits

. cut down honey

. skip soda (since you'r e on a budget, so don't waste your $ & perhaps health (if it's sweetened by HFCS)

. don't overdo nuts (too much Omega-6)

. moderate tubers or white rice (if you have to have carb).

. supplement Vit. D3 (w/ fat)

cheers,

gee1996 01-17-2011 05:54 PM

oh, forgot these 2 are cheap also nutritious:

soup bones

eggs

(also chicken thighs are cheaper than breast.)

KotikBegemotik 01-18-2011 03:32 PM

Starting Out
 
Hello folks! It's day three for me and I'm tired and craving a thick slice of bread with butter. And hot, sweet tea. My dad and I are doing this together but it is still hard even with the support. I look into the fridge after work and all the delicious carbs stare back at me, shouting "eat me!" How did any of you make it past the first week? I need pointers!

AAFlaca 01-18-2011 03:36 PM

Love this thread!
My doc put me on a diet that is basically a paleo diet. I didn't exactly realize it at the time. For the first tie in a long time, I'm losing weight. Years ago, all I had to do was cut back on portions, etc. and the weight fell off. But recently (I'm 40+) and that changed. It seemed like no matter what I did, it didn't work. This was all very frustrating for me, because I ate in what was considered a healthy manner and exercised regularly. However, it no longer worked. HOWEVER, this IS working.
The major changes I made (based on my doctor's recommendations) was to eat a lot more vegetables. In fact, most days I juice my veggies. I eat lean meats (small portions) several times a day, nuts (small portions) several times a day and have fruit for dessert. I do NOT eat sweets, sodas (including diet sodas) and have basically eliminated dairy. I will eat feta cheese and have a Greek yogurt (but only once in a great while). I use coconut milk when I want dairy. I drink coffee...but the 50/50 kind and use a small amount of coconut milk and a small amount of Truvia in it. When I am thirsty...I drink plenty of water.
Today I purchased this new Primal Blueprint book...looks GREAT! I'm sure I'll get more ideas and confirmation of what my doctor recommended.
Good to see others are doing this.....it was really frustrating to work so hard with no results even when conventional wisdom said I was doing the right things.
These tweeks to my eating plan are working and working well! :D

p.s. Hard boiled eggs are my "best friend." Easy, inexpensive...great for a quick breakfast (along with my veggie juice) or a quick snack!

AAFlaca 01-19-2011 12:51 PM

Kotik...
You probably wont 'love' this answer. But for me, I knew that the first two days would be difficult. I just accepted it. I decided that it was worth going through the difficulty of that to get 'to the other side.' Sure enough, after a few days, it got easier. After about five days or so, it was MUCH easier. I figure, as long as I stay away from sugar and bread, the cravings are greatly diminished and so it is worth my while to do that! I ate sugar (and EVERYTHING) on Christmas Day and went through two difficult days afterward. Now, I am 'clean' again and it is 'easier' again. When I have a difficult 'moment' I do 'cheat' a tiny bit and have several walnuts dipped in a tiny bit of honey or agave nectar. This satisfies my sweet tooth big time!

davidkeeth 01-20-2011 08:51 AM

All foods not created equal
 
One thing I want to point out to some of the newer Primal Blueprint/Paleo eaters is that the old ideas of eating less calories than you burn and eating low-fat foods to avoid accumulating fat on your body have been proven to be wrong, and that this style of eating corrects many deficiencies and errors in the Standard American Diet (S.A.D.)

One recurring theme of Paleo eating is that foods of the modern era, specifically sugar, gluten-containing grains and dairy, cause chronic low-level inflammation in the body. The mechanisms for this inflammation include intestinal micro perforation and the immune response to the resulting intestinal leakage, and the hormonal responses to high levels of sugar and dairy. The inflammation in turn causes fat accumulation and diseases like heart disease, cancer, and diabetes. The inflammation also causes a general sense of less-than-well being, which is also fixed by Paleo eating.

It doesn't take much gluten, sugar or dairy to cause these problems, so eating less will help but won't completely alleviate the problem. The effect is more like an allergic response than poisoning. Complete elimination is the best solution.

Most proponents of Paleo acknowledge that most people can't avoid these things completely and all of the time. The main idea is to know what the effects of eating them is, and to balance the upside with the downside. The usual advice is to do a 30-day complete elimination of these things from your diet, then add one at a time back to your daily meals, and see how you feel. That will help you determine whether they make a difference in your health, and whether or not those foods are important enough to you for you to live with the consequences of eating them.

AAFlaca 01-21-2011 06:55 AM

Thank you VERY much David. I'm trying to take it all in at the moment. My doctor recommended an eating plan (I've mentioned it on this site in places) that as far as I can tell, is similar to what is mentioned in the primal blueprint. I am reading the primal blueprint currently. It resonates with me. It seems to me that since more often than not I was compliant with low calorie + exercise (no one is perfect) and NOT getting appropriate results, that another factor or factors had to be involved. This (new way of eating) IS working. I am losing weight slowly, but SURELY and I feel good. I do not worry as much about eating low calorie, however, eliminating sweets and eating a lot more vegies has basically made that happen anyway. Can you recommend any other good books for me to read? I AM finding this lifestyle healthy, helpful and fascinating! Thank you!!! :D

Seraffa 01-22-2011 02:12 AM

Help me modify Primal Blueprint Please
 
Hi. I have a big question for other PB'ers who think they could help. I am going to have to

do a modified plan, being starch intolerant and fructose intolerant, and need to make

important adjustments to the volume of veggies and lactose-based "carbs" I will be

consuming. The problem is, I have always overeaten when trying to use the PB, because

somehow my intolerances make me think I can eat all I want of veggies or protien now; couple

that with the fact I have not been exercising for years, I don't have much control over milk

or cheese-based cravings, either. So I'm always on this see-saw of either ingesting too much

protien, too much fat, or maybe once or twice a week, too much lactose, and I am very

frustrated over this! I need a little help finding my balance, here. (I do take vitamins and

minerals, but don't take Mark's brand yet because I am Hyperthyroid, consume all my vitamins

and minerals separately so as to avoid minerals that aggrevate my thyroid.)
I have gained 10 pounds after getting rid of starches and sugars and getting my thyroid

levels "back in range" - so, my digestion is far better than it was in the beginning! My

insulin levels are in range too. But I have not started my exercise program, and definitely

overeat. :(

AAFlaca 01-22-2011 04:12 AM

I just started this plan. You are trying to lose weight, correct? (Sometimes people who are hyperthyroid want to gain weight.)
Personally, I have found that getting rid of sugar and bread has made me have less desire for them. The first few days are rough, but then it subsides. I drink herbal tea when I have a craving w/ Truvia. I also sometimes drink a comercial Green Drink which has fruit puree. Not sure, but I suspect that this puree has actual sugar in it. I only have about 1/2 a cup. This drink has a TON of veggies in it, so that's my justification for drinking it. It is my 'go to' emergency drink when I have cravings of any kind. Another craving satisfier is walnuts with a mini tab of Agave nectar. HOWEVER, I do not lose as much weight when I do either of these things. (That's the negative). BUT, I still lose and I still feel good. Keep in mind, that I only do these two "cheats" when having bad cravings, that both of them are still kinda healthy and they are mini portions.
My digestion is also FAR better than it has EVER been. In fact, I was often taking a stomach med (almost daily) and since I gave up sugar, bread and grains....I haven't taken anything for my stomach.
I'm reading the primal book on my Kindle which isn't the best 'cause its not that easy to find things again.
Are potatoes considered ok?
I am combining Mark's book along with a food plan my doc suggested.
She suggested JUICING several times a week.
I have experimented with various combos and have found some that I really like (fresh green drinks). These too help me control cravings and are super healthy and hardly add calories.
Hope this helps a little....please let me know about the potato.
BTW...I haven't really done the exercise yet....would love to hear from someone who has....need more info!

Seraffa 01-22-2011 01:05 PM

Potatoes
 
Flaca, potatoes are still considered medium high on the glycemic level so you would have to consider doing away with them as soon as possible once you are comfortable with a lower carb level beginning induction. I have some different questions in mind altogether about the veggies/lactose-based foods since I am past doing away with starches.Thank you for mentioning your "green veggie drink." Sounds yummy and energy-stabilising.

sherlocktke 01-23-2011 08:11 AM

Seraffa,
Probably one of the best ways to moderate how much you eat is to use fitday. I often times will get/make my meal and will input the fitday calculations in before I stuff my face(using my phone). From there I can decide how much to eat and how this meal will affect my day. As far as binging on veggies, keep in mind that you ought to try and keep under 100g of carbs a day (or less for IF/Ketosis), recording your intake with fitday as it happens will help you see the big picture and moderate yourself. The purpose of carbs is not for energy (thats what fat is for), it is for vitamins and nutrients. If you want to really moderate yourself, I recommend eating only broccoli, cauliflower, spinach, and arugula: they seem to have the most micronutirents per carb and are damn filling. If you are worried about a fructose intolerance, Wikipedia's entry on fructose includes a chart of common fruits and their fructose levels as a reference.
Starches, which in the western diet is typically potatoes and yams, seem to have contested commentaries. I believe Mark Sisson says yams are okay in moderation. Listening to Robb Wolf (of the Paleo Diet fame) on his podcast (I think 53), he addresses white potatoes as a nightshade (Don't eat Poisonous Things). The skins on most potatoes are also poisonous, so try to go skinless when you consume. Keep in mind that potatoes will mess with your insulin levels. You can eat a little every once and a while with meals, but personally, I don't eat potatoes anymore.
Fruit juices deliver most of the dietary nutrition of the actual fruit, are easier to store, but suffer a setback. Without the actual volume of the fruit itself (fiber), there is hardly anything to stop the glucose from going straight to the blood, leading to insulin imbalance. My suggestion, eat a salad. Juices also have less nutrients than their regular fruit relatives, due to processing, storage. If you need juice, buy organic fruit and a blender and consume at meals!
Finally, dairy. I have the same problem, I love cheeses and milk. The best way to moderate yourself is go for organic, raw milk, and aged (hence lactose-low) cheeses. None of that processed stuff. The good stuff is expensive, so trust me, you'll learn to cut down.

sherlocktke 01-23-2011 08:27 AM

I love Mark Sisson's style and appoach. Have been following it for about five weeks, and lose an average of two pounds of fat a week while still building muscle without supplements or a hell of a lot of exercise. My energy levels are great now that I control my insulin and derive most of my caloric intake from fat.
If you like Sisson, check out Robb Wolf of the Paleo Diet and his podcasts. Arthur Devany is also a great resource for his Evolutionary Diet.

cashthepro 01-25-2011 06:01 AM

I think my friend was calling this God's Country. I went online and couldn't find anything related to that, but this is the same ideal and I can say that it works lovely. I've been losing 4-6 pounds a week with working out 5 days a week.

It is hard cutting out the white rice and pasta, but it works for weight loss tho'. Also its hard in that you have to prepare your food often to help avoid processed foods.

Primal-Lioness 01-26-2011 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by AAFlaca (Post 32923)
Thank you VERY much David. I'm trying to take it all in at the moment. My doctor recommended an eating plan (I've mentioned it on this site in places) that as far as I can tell, is similar to what is mentioned in the primal blueprint. I am reading the primal blueprint currently. It resonates with me. It seems to me that since more often than not I was compliant with low calorie + exercise (no one is perfect) and NOT getting appropriate results, that another factor or factors had to be involved. This (new way of eating) IS working. I am losing weight slowly, but SURELY and I feel good. I do not worry as much about eating low calorie, however, eliminating sweets and eating a lot more vegies has basically made that happen anyway. Can you recommend any other good books for me to read? I AM finding this lifestyle healthy, helpful and fascinating! Thank you!!! :D

These are a few of the books I have recently read that supports our way of eating.

I have also recently finished school and I am now a Certified Holistic Health Coach. I am trying to move to start a business to Coach those that have chronic inflammation and diabetics. I feel these are the people I can help the most.

The Coconut Oil Miracle

Good Calorie Bad Calories

Eat Fat, Lose Fat: Lose Weight And Feel Great With The Delicious, Science-based Coconut Diet

Why We Get Fat: And What to Do About It

Eat Like An Indian

naturalmary 01-28-2011 11:55 PM

How long for body to switch over?
 
I've only recently started low-carb again - about 10 days ago. It's the only way in the past I've been able to loss weight and manage my cravings. But when I went back to eating carbs, I gained it all back plus more.

I read Primal Blueprint this week; I've read several of the other low-carb plans in the past. The one I made work before (10+ years ago) was Sugar-Busters.

How long would you expect it to take for my post-menopausal, 47 yo body to switch over and start actually burning fat full-time? I'm not have any cravings or temptations to go back to starchy carbs, but I'm still kind of tired and my weight hasn't moved yet.

Thanks.

AAFlaca 01-31-2011 04:55 AM

Thank you Primal Lioness for you post and book suggestions!

Mary...

I'm 40+ years old.

AFter not losing an ounce eating small portions, low fat and exercising regularly...when I switched to a paleo like diet, I started losing in about a week or so.

My doc put me on a diet similar to the primal blueprint. It is a variation, I suppose. Hard to say, but perhaps I eliminating dairy, sugar and grains about 80-90%. I also ate A LOT more vegetables.

I started losing consistently (knock on wood) about 1-1.5 pounds per week...and my body is looking MUCH better and I feel better.

The weird thing is I was barely exercising doing this. I only very recently started to exercise again, but not as much as I was previously.

I have thyroid issues and a lot of stress in my life. These things are known to cause weight gain and difficulties getting the weight off. (I'm working on these things). Then, there is the additional 'burden' of being over 40.

This new way of eating....no sugar + almost no dairy or grains...seems to be pushing right through all of my obstacles.

I allowed myself sugar on Christmas day and felt sluggish for two days and had cravings too. But after the two days were over, I felt fine.

Hang in there!!!! It's worth it!

BTW, very recently I have decided to eliminate grains 100%...to be even stricter than I was previously. Perhaps the weight loss will go even faster for me....not sure. It's been consistent (the weight loss) and a positive experience overall.

My guess is that you should start losing soon. Be sure to drink plenty of water between meals. Distilled water might be best.

If you continue to not lose, you might want to elminate fruit for now or only have berries in small quantities. Eat LOTS of vegetables...my doctor thinks they help with weight loss.

Sending good thoughts!

naturalmary 01-31-2011 09:13 AM

@AAFlaca - thanks!

Huskyemma 02-09-2011 01:44 AM

Paleo/Primal Blueprint/Caveman Diet, Lifestyle
 
Hi is anyone else on here following a paleo diet and lifestyle. I have 100+ lbs to lose. I have cut out all bread and wheat products from my diet and i am working on the coffee addiction by cutting down to about 4 a day. My diet used to consist of many bread and chocolate. So i am feeling very positive about this diet. Yesterday ALL my RDA's were over. I think this is a big change for me i already feel better. Lots of energy. I am peeing a lot tho. I guess that is just excess water. Emma

mecompco 02-09-2011 01:59 AM

Welcome to FitDay and the forums!

I know we have some members who are doing Paleo or something similar. If you'd like, you might drop into one (or both) of the 100+ to Lose threads (one in the Women's Only subforum and one in Diet Tips). There are lots of great people there who are (or were) in the same situation you are.

Regards,
Michael

sw07 02-09-2011 04:57 AM

I bought the book, but that's about as far as I've gotten with it.


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