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Old 02-05-2012, 09:13 AM   #191 (permalink)
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internalized fat prejudice and flat-out moralism here.

Picture the inverse: an unhealthily underweight person who doesn't find the time (or whatever) to drink all those protein shakes etc...

Although it is good to lose excess weight, judgment and shaming are not helpful. As a person who has been both superfit and obese, I see tremendous narcissism in the attitudes of people who work to keep their weight down. I suspect (I know in my case this was true) that the effort of losing weight is often supported by constantly picturing how awful fat is and how much you don't want to be that way. Surveys show that given a choice many would undergo all kinds of adverse events including divorce rather than be obese. Do you not see how crazy that is?

Finally, the evidence to show obesity as a *cause* of morbidity and mortality is pretty limited. Many obese people live long, healthy lives. Many others avoid routine medical care because of the way they've been treated and end up suffering from conditions that could have been detected earlier or avoided. Very few things in life are simple. Including this.
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Old 02-05-2012, 03:11 PM   #192 (permalink)
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internalized fat prejudice and flat-out moralism here.

Picture the inverse: an unhealthily underweight person who doesn't find the time (or whatever) to drink all those protein shakes etc...

Although it is good to lose excess weight, judgment and shaming are not helpful. As a person who has been both superfit and obese, I see tremendous narcissism in the attitudes of people who work to keep their weight down. I suspect (I know in my case this was true) that the effort of losing weight is often supported by constantly picturing how awful fat is and how much you don't want to be that way. Surveys show that given a choice many would undergo all kinds of adverse events including divorce rather than be obese. Do you not see how crazy that is?

Finally, the evidence to show obesity as a *cause* of morbidity and mortality is pretty limited. Many obese people live long, healthy lives. Many others avoid routine medical care because of the way they've been treated and end up suffering from conditions that could have been detected earlier or avoided. Very few things in life are simple. Including this.
This is a story about me being fat (if you would have actually read through the thread you would have known that). I can "judge and shame" myself for it all I want for letting myself get that way.

Why should I picture the "inverse"? Once again, this is my story, I didn't have an issue as an adult of being underweight.

I don't care what surveys say I lost weight b/c I wanted to be in better shape, be healthier and look better... not because I was faced with a life changing even, such as divorce.

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Old 02-05-2012, 03:22 PM   #193 (permalink)
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Stand much on soapbox's, neurogrrl?

Great speech, but I guess you forgot that the OP (Mike) was (is) struggling with a weight problem, and the purpose of this thread was to motivate people to lose weight. And you've got a problem with that? Talk about "wow". You must be one of the sensitive types. Get over it.

Oh, by the way, we have Mike's post in our "Best of Series" for weight loss. I nominated it to be there. Is that going to be an issue with us??
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Old 04-09-2012, 09:54 AM   #194 (permalink)
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Hi, I want to make a diet course for me . I am a fatty man of around 200lbs; I never run and always sit in front of t.v. So, the thing is someone suggested me for a grapes diet, it will help me in reducing some weight. Do you think grapes can help me here?
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:23 AM   #195 (permalink)
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Bumpity Bump Bump Bump...

Because I need a kick in the pants, I thought I'd bring up Mike's Tough Love thread again .
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:36 AM   #196 (permalink)
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For anyone reading this and serious about losing weight. I CAN NOT STRESS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO TAKE PICTURES OF YOUR PROGRESS, NO MATTER HOW PAINFUL IT MAY BE!
Hi everyone, I am new to this site, and also new to posting. I have just read this entire thread and am motivated more than ever now. I was thrilled to find this site because of the ease of tracking food - (if you bite it you write it), and the ability to track weight, mood, having a diary, and best of all the forums.

I had a huge wake up call 2 weeks ago at the Dr. I am diabetic since 2004 and had gone from metformin to a combo drug, and even with my 3 mo. blood sugar has gone up to 16.5 (normal should be about 5 - 20 = sugar in urine, blurred vision, diabetic coma). Dr.'s next step was to refer me to endocrinologist and probably go on insulin. So here I am. no more excuses.

I started Atkins May 26 and have lost 4 pounds, but more importantly my blood sugar has gone down to consistent readings between 6 and 8. In 5 days!! In fact I had a reading of 4.6 this afternoon which is good even for a non-diabetic!

I am feeling so much better already, even tho have not started any exercise yet. I have some health issues (severe chronic pain related to an injury in 1999), but will start this weekend walking everyday - even 15 minutes is more than I am doing now, and am hoping that I will have more energy once the sugar is out of my blood (and muscles, and kidneys, and eyes.....)

I also hate to have my picture taken (because I'm FAT), but Mike, I will take your advice and take one this weekend, and I'll post it too. Seeing your journey has increased my already high motivation. Thanks for the thread!
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Hi everyone, I am new to this site, and also new to posting. I have just read this entire thread and am motivated more than ever now. I was thrilled to find this site because of the ease of tracking food - (if you bite it you write it), and the ability to track weight, mood, having a diary, and best of all the forums.

I had a huge wake up call 2 weeks ago at the Dr. I am diabetic since 2004 and had gone from metformin to a combo drug, and even with my 3 mo. blood sugar has gone up to 16.5 (normal should be about 5 - 20 = sugar in urine, blurred vision, diabetic coma). Dr.'s next step was to refer me to endocrinologist and probably go on insulin. So here I am. no more excuses.

I started Atkins May 26 and have lost 4 pounds, but more importantly my blood sugar has gone down to consistent readings between 6 and 8. In 5 days!! In fact I had a reading of 4.6 this afternoon which is good even for a non-diabetic!

I am feeling so much better already, even tho have not started any exercise yet. I have some health issues (severe chronic pain related to an injury in 1999), but will start this weekend walking everyday - even 15 minutes is more than I am doing now, and am hoping that I will have more energy once the sugar is out of my blood (and muscles, and kidneys, and eyes.....)

I also hate to have my picture taken (because I'm FAT), but Mike, I will take your advice and take one this weekend, and I'll post it too. Seeing your journey has increased my already high motivation. Thanks for the thread!
Caty, welcome aboard!!! I'm glad you found some motivation in this thread. WE are all here to help! Congrats on your progress thus far and yeah, don't forget the pics.
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I have already had to change my signature LOL! I know it won't always be this easy, but this first week has been very encouraging. Thanks for the kudos.
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Hi everyone, I am new to this site, and also new to posting. I have just read this entire thread and am motivated more than ever now. I was thrilled to find this site because of the ease of tracking food - (if you bite it you write it), and the ability to track weight, mood, having a diary, and best of all the forums.

I had a huge wake up call 2 weeks ago at the Dr. I am diabetic since 2004 and had gone from metformin to a combo drug, and even with my 3 mo. blood sugar has gone up to 16.5 (normal should be about 5 - 20 = sugar in urine, blurred vision, diabetic coma). Dr.'s next step was to refer me to endocrinologist and probably go on insulin. So here I am. no more excuses.

I started Atkins May 26 and have lost 4 pounds, but more importantly my blood sugar has gone down to consistent readings between 6 and 8. In 5 days!! In fact I had a reading of 4.6 this afternoon which is good even for a non-diabetic!

I am feeling so much better already, even tho have not started any exercise yet. I have some health issues (severe chronic pain related to an injury in 1999), but will start this weekend walking everyday - even 15 minutes is more than I am doing now, and am hoping that I will have more energy once the sugar is out of my blood (and muscles, and kidneys, and eyes.....)

I also hate to have my picture taken (because I'm FAT), but Mike, I will take your advice and take one this weekend, and I'll post it too. Seeing your journey has increased my already high motivation. Thanks for the thread!
Mike (01gt4.6) - This thread is spot on and you came up with “NO EXCUSES” before The Biggest Loser did, lol. Congrats on your wonderful progress.

Cate - Your story really touched my heart. Some people hear what a Dr. says but don’t hear the wake up call………………………..You did. Your story motivates me and even though I don’t know you I am so happy for you. Walking is a awesome way to start, slow to start and build up to more minutes as you go. Give it time I hated walking a first but now I am driven to do it.

My husband is diabetic too so I know where you are coming from. He is not over weight but diabetes is a challenge at any weight.

I just wanted to give you a big “WAY TO GO” and keep it up you can do it!
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Hi Renee,

thanks for the kudos it is much appreciated. When I saw the dr. last he added glyburide to my Janumet to try and lower my bs until i see the specialist in July. That brought my readings down from 16-18 into the 10-12 range - still not low enough. Janumet is a combo Januvia and Metformin drug, and glyburide is not really recommended anymore because of the way it acts on the pancreas (dr describes it as 'wringing' the insulin out of the pancreas).

Well today I am happy to say that my bs was almost too low yesterday so today I did NOT take the glyburide and my readings were 5 and 6.6 (I know we calculate the blood sugar differently in Canada from the US. Those readings would make a non diabetic jealous!) Needless to say I am very happy, even more happy than I am about the weight loss (LOL)!!
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