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Mern 08-29-2011 01:06 PM

Request: Net Carbohydrates in FitDay 2.0
 
There have been many people who mentioned on Classic FitDay that they would like to have net carbohydrates displayed in the pie chart--i.e. total carbohydrates less fiber=net carbohydrates (because fiber is a carbohydrate that very minimally impacts blood sugar).

Net carbohydrates (calling it net carbs is just fine) would be so helpful to many who must monitor their net carbohydrates for blood sugar management.

01gt4.6 09-11-2011 08:14 AM

I totally agree.

Buttoni 09-13-2011 10:27 AM

+1 Net carbs would be really nice for many of us. I can tell you that the lack of this feature sent many, MANY Atkins Community Forums members over to fatsecret.com for all their food-logging needs. One gets tired of having to do all that in their heads, again and again.

IBswilson 09-13-2011 11:05 AM

Net Carbohydrates is another topic that we have discussed several times in our review of how we could improve FitDay. In order to provide our users with the most accurate information possible, we have intentionally chosen not to do this calculation.

Unfortunately, Net Carbohydrates has no official definition or endorsement from the FDA. We have spoken to several dietitians about how to calculate this number and received varying answers from all of them.

I'm sure we will revisit this topic in the future but it is not on our to-do list at this time.

01gt4.6 09-13-2011 11:15 AM

Scott, I think 99% of the people would be happy with net being total carbs minus fiber. I know you can't you please them all but IMO this calculation would please more people than no calculation at all.

Also, couldn't it be something like:

*Net Carbohydrates = xxx.xx




























*Net Carbohydrates has no official definition or endorsement from the FDA.

01gt4.6 09-13-2011 11:25 AM

Would it be overly complicated on the programming side to give the user an option to click a - button to subtract out what ever they'd like such as fiber, sugar alcohols from carbs or unsaturated fats from fats? Could this be done under "Custom Nutrition Goals"?

gi8e7oi825 09-13-2011 02:34 PM

I agree, as long as the net carbs only applies to natural foods in their natural state. So bread won't count, and neither will apple juice, but the raw apple would. As much as people want to believe that foods with after-the-fact fiber (fiber-enriched) have some sort of impact on blood glucose, studies are showing otherwise. Why do you think those delicious looking chocolatey Aktins bars fail? lol

So I guess I agree more with the Mustang guy on the programming bit (btw LS1 > *)

flamkflamk 11-10-2011 11:59 AM

Net carbs
 
Net Carbohydrates is another topic that we have discussed several times in our review of how we could improve FitDay. In order to provide our users with the most accurate information possible, we have intentionally chosen not to do this calculation.

I certainly understand this position on the one hand, but on the other, couldn't just adding the fiber count to the default food macronutrient page allow folks who are using this metric the ability to easily do this calculation on their own? I know this is what I currently do using the classic interface as fiber is listed right below carbohydrates.

metqabutane 11-10-2011 04:33 PM

The Fitday beta has removed ANY reference to Fiber in the Totals. I feel that is a terrible decision or oversight.

Whether they choose to include some sort of net carb count or calculation, the program loses functionality when a key nutrient count is removed from the totals.

Fiber is included in all nutrition labels, why fitday would not include it in the new beta form is beyond me.

Most of the changes I see to Fitday beta have been additions, additional measures, additional references on graphs, things that make counting the nutrients of our choice easier. I do hope this is just an oversight and someone will program in the fiber content line, or I will have to use the Old Fitday to get the information I need. or I will have to choose another program and recommend that my friends do the same.

More information is BETTER, Bring Back the Fiber Count!

jaydee1445 11-10-2011 11:53 PM

New user here so far I love the site and have referred several people. :)

I also a have chosen to go low carb for many reasons that make this lifestyle a better fit for me. I find it a pain to have to create a custom food for everything to track net carbs.:( It looks to me to be a terrible management decision to ignore the 20% of the population who have chosen the low carb lifestyle. If fiber is removed from the totals I will surely leave,:mad: and if I find a site that gives a net carb total I may leave if it makes tracking easier.

If management is one of the anti low carb crowd you can put a up disclaimer but don't make a poor choice that will affect the bottom line and miss out on a large part of the market share. IMHO Ignoring 20% of your target market is just plain stupid.Economics 101:rolleyes:

cjohnson728 11-11-2011 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by metqabutane (Post 62001)
The Fitday beta has removed ANY reference to Fiber in the Totals. I feel that is a terrible decision or oversight.

Whether they choose to include some sort of net carb count or calculation, the program loses functionality when a key nutrient count is removed from the totals.

Fiber is included in all nutrition labels, why fitday would not include it in the new beta form is beyond me.

Most of the changes I see to Fitday beta have been additions, additional measures, additional references on graphs, things that make counting the nutrients of our choice easier. I do hope this is just an oversight and someone will program in the fiber content line, or I will have to use the Old Fitday to get the information I need. or I will have to choose another program and recommend that my friends do the same.

More information is BETTER, Bring Back the Fiber Count!

You can select fiber in the new FitDay by going to the Food tab, select the tab that says Custom Nutrition Goals, and choose fiber. It's there, but I agree with you...I want it right on the front with the pie chart and I don't want to have to click through a couple things to get it!

Katydidtoo 07-13-2012 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by Buttoni (Post 56578)
+1 Net carbs would be really nice for many of us. I can tell you that the lack of this feature sent many, MANY Atkins Community Forums members over to fatsecret.com for all their food-logging needs. One gets tired of having to do all that in their heads, again and again.

Thank you so much for this post!

Kathy13118 07-14-2012 05:21 AM

'Net carbs' are invented - I've read that Dr. Eades invented the term but I've also read that it is a marketing tool devised to sell low-carb products.

What Are Net Carbs? | Diabetes Forecast Magazine

catebert 07-14-2012 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by Kathy13118 (Post 85434)
'Net carbs' are invented - I've read that Dr. Eades invented the term but I've also read that it is a marketing tool devised to sell low-carb products.

What Are Net Carbs? | Diabetes Forecast Magazine

While I agree that the manufacturers of low-carb products are using 'net carbs' as a marketing tool (even tho they don't seem to have any affect on my blood sugar, I don't believe for a minute that the sugar alcohols don't count LOL), the fact is that since fibre is indigestible it doesn't count. Therefore, deducting the fibre from the total carbohydrate count gives you the 'net carb' count. For those of us who choose a low-carb WOE to regulate blood sugar, this calculation is very important.

I don't mind having to go to the calorie breakdown chart and subtracting the fibre from the total carb count, in fact I think it makes me more conscious of how many usable carbs I have ingested by having to do the calculation, but please please do not remove the fibre count or I will have to go to another site :( as this information is very important to me.

tzena 08-16-2012 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by IBswilson (Post 56580)
Net Carbohydrates is another topic that we have discussed several times in our review of how we could improve FitDay. In order to provide our users with the most accurate information possible, we have intentionally chosen not to do this calculation.

Unfortunately, Net Carbohydrates has no official definition or endorsement from the FDA. We have spoken to several dietitians about how to calculate this number and received varying answers from all of them.

I'm sure we will revisit this topic in the future but it is not on our to-do list at this time.

I appreciate fitday but will no longer use it since it does not help me net carbs. I understand the issues around defining that, but it is such a simple thing for the day's nutrition to include the grams of fiber for the day. I could do the math in my head by taking the percentage of the RDA shown in the graph format and subtracting it from total carbs, but I will simply leave instead. The program does not adequately meet the needs of those who are on low carb diets. That is a critical issue for me. I appreciate all the work on the program and the site, but it does not meet my needs.

LMB2011 08-22-2012 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by IBswilson (Post 56580)
Net Carbohydrates is another topic that we have discussed several times in our review of how we could improve FitDay. In order to provide our users with the most accurate information possible, we have intentionally chosen not to do this calculation.

Unfortunately, Net Carbohydrates has no official definition or endorsement from the FDA. We have spoken to several dietitians about how to calculate this number and received varying answers from all of them.

I'm sure we will revisit this topic in the future but it is not on our to-do list at this time.

Please don't change the carohydrates. I like seeing my all day total. This is working for me and I do print and share my charts with my dietitian.


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