Bummer...I actually took time for a lenghtly reply and the darn system froze on me again

Anyway good to see the scale is going down for you..keep it up

I use to love to read, no time lately maybe during the wonderful Minnesota winter I will pick up a book, the ones you read sound good. No loss for me yet, maybe i will get a chance tomorrow to go through what I tried posting today to explain what I realized what I was doing wrong.Basically estimating calories from the hubbys cooking